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Post by Solana on Mar 31, 2011 21:05:18 GMT -5
Don't worry about it, it's been a crazy season so far. The puns are always worth the wait. Ullr-ight, we'll keep our treasure to us Shriners. Now that you mention it, I was thinking back to the days at the bookstore, and some of the issues we had with the customer bathroom, and.... no. It can get bad enough when people take a paper towel to the toilet and try to Forseti-n, causing plumbing issues, and even worse when people ignore 'out of order' signs, not realizing that they're there for a reason. (I don't have to clean bathrooms at my new job, but still take a moment to wipe up any spilled water around the sink. Five years of having to do it and all.) Or maybe people would randomly send seemingly unimportant items to other places and completely mess up planned destinies. (And we can't be angering the God of Destiny now, what with CoH and all.) Getting rid of a dead fish in KQ5 would mean no honeycomb from the grateful bee queen, which would mean no honey to trap the elf to get out of the cursed forest, and even if one DID manage to find their way out, there would be no way to patch the boat to find Morlak's castle. (Almost) an entire royal family would fail to be saved, and a country plunged into chaos, due to a missed dead fish. (Two if you count the one in the castle.) (Norse god of skiing and archery, Norse god of justice.)
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Post by Ambrienne on Mar 31, 2011 22:20:49 GMT -5
Funny that you mentioned King's Quest. I h Urd rumors that the dead series might be revived. I hope it doesn't rely too much on whatever was in no. 8, though, because... I had issues with the gameplay style (to put it mildly) and so have no idea what happened in it. If they were going to revive a series, though, I would have voted for Quest for Glory instead, because... it was cool creating your own hero and having some leeway towards how you played the game. ...You know, the more I think about it, the last one kind of reminds me of Dragon Age. I mean, there's the whole humor thing going and the hero even has a choice of love interest. ^^; Just why doesn't anyone in DA have anything to compete with Erasmus' Razzle Dazzle Root Beer, though? Like maybe a Fade Fizzy or something? Oh, well. The world may never know. Is it even possible to anger the God of Destiny? ...I suppose if you took away all his fun, then... but let's not go there. It's not safe. It occured to me that the GoD will find certain aspects of the Disgaean netherworlds... amusing to say the least. I mean, you don't even have to lift a finger and chaos just happens. Maybe it's where he goes to relax a little and get more ideas for messing with less self and mutally destructive mortal minds. Wait, did I say that we were less self and mutually destructive? ::coughs:: Sure, we are. We must be, right? There's got to be some line to divide us from them. And no, it's not the line to the bathroom. Let's see, what other things could be messed up by seemingly inconsequential items not being where they should be? How about if the ship to Meribia in Lunar set sail without Alex? Okay, so the ship is a big item, but a little miss in timing, and your whole quest gets derailed. How about if Ramus' family no longer had the Fire Ring? No going into the the White Dragon Cave, no adventure... No catching Ghaleon's eye, no blabbing about Quark's location... Wait, was this supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing? (One of the three Fates of Norse mythology)
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Post by Solana on Apr 1, 2011 21:13:15 GMT -5
Wait, what? There was a King's Quest VIII? That wasn't on the collection that came in at the bookstore. Was it fanmade? Who was the protagonist on that one?
Good thing or bad, with misplaced items? That's kind of a tricky one to Ansa. (Especially after being brought up in a way at the end of SSSC.)
Even before Alex and co. arrived in Meribia, Lemia was already a prisoner with her memory wiped in the Magic Guild. (It makes one wonder how long she would have had to sit while Ghaleon tried fruitlessly to find the goddess among the other girls if Luna had never been brought to his attention.)
Also, thinking of the Vile Tribe, I wonder how long they would have remained penned up in the Frontier. Phacia's letter in the library in EBC mentioned that they were beginning to live side by side with the humans. (Specifically, I've always loved the thought that Hiro was descended from them.)
I do have to wonder, though, how things would have turned out in the Goddess Tower in EBC. Would Luna have eventually come to figure out who she was, without being forced back to it? In EBC, she left behind the message as an elderly human woman, and signed her letter to Hiro as 'Luna'. Then again, it was her choice as a goddess to leave behind her divinity and live among her children as a human, and it did seem like she tried to wrap things up beforehand for Lucia to come to trust humanity and love as she did.
But the little things can show up in RL like that. Once a dress inspired a whole story for me. A song can inspire an arc or location, or a chance comment can start a solid friendship that's opened yet more doors, and how many more in the future.
Sure, there can be whole books on arguing about the power of destiny and free will, and how much influence each one has, but I suppose we won't always know which is which.
(Indian sun god.)
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 3, 2011 14:30:05 GMT -5
It was legitimate. As in, er, done by Sierra, etc. But trust me, don't look for it. I mean, if you were given a blind testing, where the games' names were hidden, you would not guess that it belonged to the series at all. For one thing, the perspective was totally changed. Daventry in 3D? Sounds like a good idea, but the execution left a lot to be desired. The focus on story and problem solving appeared to have shifted to, well, graphics, combat, etc. A total sellout of the strong points of the series.
In fact, all I remember about the story is that everyone in the castle was turned to stone except for you. It might have even been everyone human in the country for all I know. I think the PC might have been Alexander and Cassima's son, but that I'm not sure on. Even the thought of the mysterious, strongest armor of the game (Figleaf, basically let the character run around naked, more or less) wasn't enough to tempt me into playing past my inital hour of frustration and wandering in circles.
To give you an idea, it would be as big a botch job to remake the Harvest Moon series into a First (or Thord) person shooter or... (worse yet) a DDR clone. Ooh, scary thought... Having to match dance steps to plant your crops and chop wood. ><
(That guy with the hammer, responsible for the name of Thursday)
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Post by Solana on Apr 3, 2011 19:33:54 GMT -5
.... is it bad that my first thought on that last one was, "That sounds like fun?" Seriously, I love DDR, and would love to see how some crossovers would work. Say in Soul Calibur 4, you'd need the right combo of steps to pull off different moves, and the one who got it right would land the first blow. (Kind of an expanded version of Sabin's blitz techniques in FFVI, but a bigger pad.) Or on Okami, you'd have to use your feet to operate the brush instead of the pad. And hey, all that running around Nippon would be great for cardio exercise. Idun think that it would suit everyone's fancy, or it may be some folks' idea of Hel, but I think it'd be entertaining. I like throwing in hip drops or other quick bellydance moves when going for the correct arrows, but it doesn't work as well on the faster beats. But, messing up our glorious King's Quest... no. Maybe it wasn't included on the collection for a reason. (Looks it up on youtube.) What the hell is that? That voice-acting was just atrocious, and the dialogue... Nah, I'll stick with the collection ones and call it good. I always thought that VII rounded off the series quite nicely. (Norse apples of immortality, and part of the Norse underworld. There seem to be a lot of gems in that particular pantheon. )
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 6, 2011 22:16:26 GMT -5
Ah, good (or bad, depending on how you look at it). My foggy memory wasn't wrong on that one. Wait, you mean it got worse past the first hour of playing? 'Cause I... don't even remember the garbage VA job. You'd think that would have left a permanent scar on my aural senses that needed to Bifrosted over.
Though really, I think the reason it wasn't included was because it was still in development when the collection was released. Same thing with Quest for Glory V not being in the QfG collection. Except in that case, it was actually good and not in any way an embarassment.
Remembering the style KQ7 was in, it kind of makes you think, now why wasn't there a cartoon series based on this? Or on QfG, for that matter. I mean, just look at the success Slayers had (and still has). I know I'd go for it (unless it was a hack job).
Though in QfG's case it might be better reimagined with a character from each class as a party, because if you had just one person doing it all... it's not as much fun to watch as it is to play.
(the famous bridge of Norse myth, Yeah, tell me about it. Funny how that works out.)
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Post by Solana on Apr 8, 2011 20:59:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure how KQ would turn out if they did decide to Brigid over to a cartoon series. KQVI might be cool as a live action movie, if they could get the casting and effects right. (Maybe the magic map one would get pricey, shooting it for disappearing and appearing on each island? Or the Steps of Knowledge and being carried away by the Winged Ones?) But KQVII... it's about halfway to a cartoon already, and I think it'd work pretty well. The only question is, how many insults could they have the mockingbird fit in the movie? It was pretty fun to stand and hear them all, but not everyone would have that kind of patience in a movie unless they split up his repertoire and slipped it in different areas. (Doing live action for that one, especially for Etheria, would probably drive up the budget to unimaginable levels.)
As for QfG, I wonder... say that they did it as a miniseries, then shot different versions for different classes? It could be interesting to keep the idea of every class has a different solution to the problems, or see how situations/people differ compared to the others. It might not be as sellable, but I'd be curious to see how the execution would turn out.
(Celtic fire/sun goddess/saint.)
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 10, 2011 21:15:05 GMT -5
There might be some parts of Etheria that could be managed with a reasonable budget in live action, say, with a fog machine or dry ice for clouds, but doing Sirocco well... that's a whole different story.
...Then again, they wouldn't need a fog machine at all if they filmed it in Los Angeles at the right time of day above the smog line, but somehow, I don't think brown clouds give you quite the right fairytale feeling. At least, not for Etheria, but Oberon the dream plane, that Valanice visits, it might work.
Or is it even safe anymore to walk around there without a gas mask? ...In any case, you'll know it's time to evacuate when the air tests for a higher amount of invisible (or not so invisible) bad... things than the tap water.
(King's Quest just makes it so easy to do myth references... The wind horse which I can't remember whether it was associated with a specific cardinal direction or not, and the King of the Fairies used by Shakespeare among others)
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Post by Solana on Apr 11, 2011 20:10:54 GMT -5
Huh, I Don remember the smog being all that Badb the last few times we were in LA. Maybe we got there on good days when the wind horses were out doing their thing, who knows? Of course, if one wants to properly shoot fairy tale-esque stories out in CA, I think the ideal spot is actually a few hundred miles to the north in lovely Pismo Beach. It's a true gem of a seaside town, located on top of a lovely cliff overlooking the majestic Pacific. Seagulls and pelicans make it their hangout, and it was the first place I've ever seen dolphins in the wild. (Hands out earplugs all around.) And they were CUTE! So very CUTE to see those lovely gray shapes in the water, playing on the waves and looking for breakfast and... (the rest trails off into supersonic squeals of dolphin praises.) (Deep breath.) Okay, I'm back. ;D It's been way too long since I've been near the sea. I think my muse is trying to tell me to go on a vacation for the first time in a while, since I keep having dreams about the Atlantis resort. Things are a little different in dreams- I don't recall them having polar bears three years ago. (Celtic Mother goddess, Celtic crow goddess.)
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 15, 2011 22:56:28 GMT -5
Maybe you were there on good days, or I'm exaggerating, or I don't remember much about it at all. Or, ah... all three? I chug enough water down on a regular basis that somebody could slip me some from the river Lethe and I wouldn't notice. Unless it were treated with sulfur, which sometimes Styx it to me, causing me to choke. ::keeps the earplugs in until the Echoes of Ecco die down:: Polar bears, huh? Were they drinking any Coca Cola in your dream, or is that all hype? Maybe they relocated to Pismo because you have global warming on the brain. Let me know if you see any penguins playing checkers (or chess) in the park, though. That could be a sign that the end is near. Well, not really. I'm joking of course. About the end, not about letting me know. I'm just wondering if the power of suggestion will have any effect. (River whose water is supposed to erase the memories of the people that drink it, another underworld river famous for a certain ferryman who wants two coins for the fare, a nymph from Greek myth, and a dolphin who... ::slaps self for reverting to the previous theme for additional punishment:: )
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Post by Solana on Apr 16, 2011 14:21:57 GMT -5
Don't wanna know about the end, eh? Surtr self. Oh, that reminds me of some fun times when I was still at the bookstore and running the Christianity section. I remember one guy going on and on about how 'only intelligent people know that the end is near' and blah, blah, blah. Normally, we're supposed to keep quiet when people are going on like that, but the guy wouldn't shut up, so I finally retorted with the lines from Matthew about how none but the Father know the hour. He rolled over that with some of objection, but I just stopped listening at that point. We had a Al-Lat of 'prophecy' books that sat on a half shelf. They never sold, but kept coming in and in. If I do see any penguins playing chess in the park on the walk to the new job, you'll be the first to know. I can't remember if the bears were drinking Coke, but maybe I'll just have to make a trip there and see for myself. Or even better, come along in the time-traveling bathroom and we could check the real version. Just, you know, maybe a few decades before everything gets trashed to all blazes. Maybe the times in LA were just lucky, or maybe I was so looking forward to seeing the beautiful sea that I couldn't see any smog or such to dim that glorious expectation. It's probably a good idea to hold onto the earplugs for any mention of sweet dolphins- I was so shrill with delight in Pismo Beach that I'm surprised the hotel windows didn't shatter. ;D They're just so CUUUUTE! (Norse fire giant, Arabian moon goddess)
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 17, 2011 22:08:13 GMT -5
Preach it! ;D
Seriously, though, I agree. My pastor once said that people would be better off if they read the Bible more instead of books 'about' the Bible. That's true for prophecy Among other things. It's one thing to speculate that end may be near, and suggest that we get our affairs in order (which we should anyway, since a person could die any day, regardless of when the world ends), but it's Nata for us to make Taishis to a specific date/year/whatever.
And about only intelligent people knowing the end is near? Even a rat knows enough to leave a sinking ship, and while some might debate about who's smarter (the rat or the average human), I'd say that makes that claim out to be a load of Nornsense.
That could just be what Athenek, though.
::looks around for a change of subject::
So, how about them Dolphins? ...Er... ::stuffs in the earplugs::
I'm all for using the bathroom to check out the various scenic places back before people treated the world as their personal litter box. Uh... Now that I think about it, is there any time period early enough for that? People from the days of yore weren't exactly know for their sanitary excellence, after all.
(Egyptian god which was, in earlier times, a distinct entity from Ra, the next two together are the Japanese name for a Chinese mythological figure that was able to ride/walk on the air via two spinning wheels of fire, one term used for the Norse fates, an older Greek spelling of the goddess of wisdom/intelligent warfare)
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Post by Solana on Apr 18, 2011 19:38:13 GMT -5
Well, no penguins playing chess on the walk today. It could be tomorrow, Enlil while, or a year away, who knows? Although the radio was playing a 'Guess that Sound' game, and it was a penguin laughing while being tickled. Who knew that they enjoyed it? Good point on how long we've been trashing the planet- I think we'd want to at least go further back than the Industrial Revolution. Then again, there have been some good things going on lately. My last semester in college, I did an independent study on conservation issues in marine biology. (Only from papers, unfortunately- we have ten thousand lakes but no oceans. ) I studied issues from hunting in the arctic to krill gathering in Antarctica and everything in between. Brazil has a program where they hired former poachers to do studies of turtle eggs and count and watch them, instead of taking the eggs to sell. Solutions like that are good because these guys have the know-how and you're giving them alternate jobs instead of just 'you can't do this anymore'. In New Zealand, there have been studies of the angles that whales' echolocation can reach, and planes overhead that do whale watching have to stay outside of that angle to not disturb them. Boats need licenses and have a quota that they can't go over for tourists. If too many come, the rest have to wait. It was a lifechanging class, even if my mentor Kyle (who inspired my hydro's mentor/father figure Kiel ) tried to turn me to the dark side, aka freshwater biology. (He failed.) ;D I think that more studies and implementing what we find out about critters' homes and niches can help turn some things around. I don't go around Hugin trees, but I am an optimist. (Mesopotamian god of storm, wind, and rain; one of Odin's ravens, 'Thought'.)
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Post by Ambrienne on Apr 24, 2011 20:56:19 GMT -5
So, they want tourists but not too many? What do they do with the excess? Pass out hunting licenses and declare open season on them like people do for deer? ...Juno, that kinda sounds like about a bazillion different mediocre movie plots, except with tourists instead of convicts or overly hormonal teenagers and college students.
So, freshwater is the dark side? Why? Too much algae? Or is it being neriadverse affects?
(Roman version of the head god's wife, a Greek variety of water nymph)
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Post by Solana on Apr 25, 2011 19:48:15 GMT -5
Nah, freshwater's not really my Nemesis, it was more Laka joke between us. Kyle told me at the beginning of our Aquatic Biology class that he'd have me converted over from loving the ocean to being a limnologist (freshwater biologist). I just laughed and told him that he didn't have a chance in hell, that if anything, I'd convert HIM over to the ocean during our discussions for my independent study. By the end of the year, it was a draw, with neither of us budging. But I learned a ton from him, not only about ecosystems but about being an ecology scientist in general and some of the tough choices that lie ahead. If it wasn't for his classes, my avatars and their story would be completely different. Hunting tourists.... would that be done by the scientists, or possibly sharks with laser-beams attached to their heads that have had enough of Jaws movies, or some denizens of the deep that have been hiding in the 99% of the ocean floor that hasn't been explored yet, or even a kraken that lived through the Flood and just hasn't wanted to advertise its presence yet? It's hard to say- there's so much more to learn. (Greek goddess of divine retribution, Hawaiian goddess of hula.)
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