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Post by Roas on Jun 16, 2015 0:23:31 GMT -5
If ever a game needed to be hit by the remake cannon....7 was one of them...6 too.
I'm down for this.
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Post by skylark on Jun 16, 2015 0:50:41 GMT -5
It'll take a few years, but it should be ready in time for the 20th anniversary. As long as they reconcile everything introduced in the compilation, I'm happy.  |
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Post by Solana on Jun 16, 2015 6:57:19 GMT -5
Rumors have been going around forever, so I'm happy to see that this will be a reality now.
But twenty years... my, time has gone by.
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Post by northlander on Jun 19, 2015 19:13:58 GMT -5
They better not cut out any of the weird stuff in it.
I'm serious: if you're not getting into a tiny pool with several ambigiously gay Mike Haggar clones while on a quest to perfect Cloud's crossdressing in this game, I shall consider it inferior in all the important ways.
Edit: Ah, they're not. That's good.
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Post by Alis on Jun 25, 2015 0:09:00 GMT -5
I'm so so so afraid they will ruin it, and all my teenage fanfictions with it.
But hey, more CG Vincent -IS- more CG Vincent.
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Post by skylark on Sept 28, 2015 16:32:55 GMT -5
Reika: You know what the weird thing about all this is?
Lark: I'm afraid to ask, but what?
Reika: You'd think Anon would've made a rant over this by now. >.>
Lark: That may be why he's been absent for a while. He's building up all the negative energy he can muster in private for a super-rant.
Reika: .........
Lark: ........I'll get the bomb shelter ready.
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Post by Anon Mous on Oct 25, 2015 21:31:10 GMT -5
Reika: You know what the weird thing about all this is? Lark: I'm afraid to ask, but what? Reika: You'd think Anon would've made a rant over this by now. >.> Lark: That may be why he's been absent for a while. He's building up all the negative energy he can muster in private for a super-rant. Reika: ......... Lark: ........I'll get the bomb shelter ready. Believe it or not that is not the case. I figure one of two things is going to happen. Either the people at Square Enix are going to do some major rewrites, fill in holes, patch up the things that didn't make sense, possibly screw with the systems to make them more "modern," and introduce a whole new generation of screaming fangirls to bishi characters they knew about but didn't really know (and giving me all the more fodder for my rants and put downs of Square), or they will do the more likely scenario. Give the game an update in graphics, maybe some voice acting, and keep the same crappy story and characters at which point people will really begin to realize what I have been saying all along. It really does bite the big one. People can say that I have it in for them going into this, but all of the things that made the game great to fans back in the day had been done by games before them (exception being the materia system). Most of the fans just didn't know that. Now they know. I have a feeling that this game is just going to be another tired remake that is going to load the shelves of every game store with a dozen used copies. Take it from a guy who knows nostalgia. It truly only goes so far without substance to back it up. |
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Post by Zero on Dec 6, 2015 13:02:59 GMT -5
The released on game looks gorgeous.
And I'm not judging the battle system until I play it myself. It looks fine to me.
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Post by skylark on Dec 7, 2015 1:42:29 GMT -5
The released on game looks gorgeous. And I'm not judging the battle system until I play it myself. It looks fine to me. Just don't go anywhere near message boards. All you're gonna see are cries of 'RUINED FOREVER' from the psycho-fanboy-purists... who all apparently decided to congregate on GameFAQs. .....I know I keep saying this, but I lose more and more faith in humanity every time I look in gaming boards.  |
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Post by Rune Lai on Dec 7, 2015 3:08:18 GMT -5
When I saw it was going to be an episodic release I lol'ed. Wasn't trying to be mean, but I don't think Square is like it used to be.
Cloud looks oddly skinny to me though. I know his figure looks more realistic in that real people aren't usually cut out of iron, but somehow his arms aren't coming together with this rest of his badass image. You can look badass even if you're not a large person. It's all in the presentation.
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Post by skylark on Dec 7, 2015 3:15:58 GMT -5
When I saw it was going to be an episodic release I lol'ed. Wasn't trying to be mean, but I don't think Square is like it used to be. Cloud looks oddly skinny to me though. I know his figure looks more realistic in that real people aren't usually cut out of iron, but somehow his arms aren't coming together with this rest of his badass image. You can look badass even if you're not a large person. It's all in the presentation. I just shrug at the format. So it's episodic. Maybe I don't understand what the big deal is. The most important thing is to try and keep an open mind. Unfortunately, keeping an open mind and 'making excuses' apparently mean the same thing these days... |
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Post by Rune Lai on Dec 7, 2015 15:00:37 GMT -5
I don't like episodic because you don't know when the whole thing will be finished or if it will be the same quality the whole way through. I'm the sort of person who will wait until it's all done, which for the game companies is exactly what they don't want, because the less people who buy up front the less incentive they have to make the next installment.
I'm sure there are finanical reasons they want to do an episodic release (not necessarily because they want to milk the franchise either, which is what most people are sniping about), but if I was an FF7 fan this would dampen my enthusiasm considerably.
My feeling is that to do FF7 the way they want to do it, and the way fans expect it, Square does not have the finanicals to pull it off. The hype train is so damn high there's no way they'll make it and the glory days of the JRPG as a competitive genre are largely over. There's a higher budget needed to meet expectations, but a smaller audience (who probably have deeper pocketbooks now).
So what they can do is release FF7 a chunk at a time. Players who buy each installment immediately will end up spending more money collectively for the whole series than if they dropped $60 and called it a day. And in turn that extra money will fund development of later installments of the game.
And if Square is smart, they'll also take feedback on what people liked/didn't like in the first installment and then improve the next one based on that, eventually aligning what they produce with what the fans actually want.
I don't think fans realize that Square is not the company it was 15 years ago. It has a much smaller set of titles and I'm sure doing this is a tremendous strain on their resources. They haven't successfully pipelined two full blown Final Fantasy games simulaneously through development since FF9and FF10 (don't forget FF15 is still in the works).
They tried again with FF13 and FF Versus XIII, and we know what happened there.
They can handle one major game and several smaller ones (particularly non-RPGs), and I suspect breaking up FF7 into multiple titles is to ensure that neither of them get overly delayed.
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Post by Anon Mous on Dec 7, 2015 16:34:09 GMT -5
I don't like episodic because you don't know when the whole thing will be finished or if it will be the same quality the whole way through. I'm the sort of person who will wait until it's all done, which for the game companies is exactly what they don't want, because the less people who buy up front the less incentive they have to make the next installment. On this I am with Rune wholeheartedly. You never know when episodic games are going to end, but I usually just stay away from them altogether. The worst ones, however, are the ones that look like full games, then turn into episodic games. Halo is a prime example. I will not play Halo (partially because of the tunnel vision what all FPS games have) mainly because of the now episodic nature of the game. But I digress. I wouldn't say that JRPGs are finished as a competitive genre though. One only has to look at the stuff that is coming out of NIS, Atlus, and Namco Bandai to see that there is still a pretty big market. The problem is what Square is dishing out. Like Rune said they are not the same company they used to be. They put out Final Fantasy, they put out Kingdom Hearts, and they put out Dragon Quest. DQ is just the same old rehash, FF you all know my thoughts on so I won't go into it, and KH people have been waiting for an actual sequel rather than a side story or remake since 2 on PS2. Everything else they try nobody takes notice of. They made bad choices and it's catching up with them. They realize that the visuals they can currently produce aren't carrying them as far anymore and their in game systems are either old and boring or way too different, with lots of flash and little substance. My bias aside, I think Square is going to have a hard time getting the game to completion. There will be those, like Rune, who prefer to wait until the whole thing is finished, those who liked the game initially, but not enough to go back to it, those who will see it as good, but maybe not worth buying every episode . . . I could go on, but my point is that for what is essentially a high budget game, funding is going to run out. I'm not sure how many episodes they have planned, but I will be surprised if they make more than 4. I figure by 3 most of even the die hard fans will tired of spending that much money for not a full game. Of course, that's just me. |
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